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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #1081
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Sat, 1 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1081
-
- Today's Topics:
- DOES ANYONE USE 2M AM?
- Expose - Wouff-Hong
- Ham Radio & More Stations
- Radio Shack Violation (2 msgs)
- TJ1JR ACTIVE
-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 1994 16:35:02 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: DOES ANYONE USE 2M AM?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- What is the most popular 2 M AM freq? All I have xtals for is 145.380 but
- I doubt anyone still uses it.
-
- Does anyone have a schematic for a xtal oscillator to lock a Gonset 2/6 M
- AM rig's receiver?
-
- - Rob, N1NTE
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 13:42:04 GMT
- From: newsgate.melpar.esys.com!melpar!phb@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Expose - Wouff-Hong
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- ip@g8sjp.demon.co.uk (Iain Philipps) writes:
-
- >With all the talk of Wouff Hong (sic) I decided to search my magazine
- >archives as a research project. Not surprisingly, I turned up a singular
- >reference, which I quote below verbatim:-
-
- >"Wouff-Hong: the ultimate amateur radio torture instrument for those
- > causing unnecessary interference. It was originally
- > mentioned by The Old Man (Hiram Percy Maxim) in a facetious
- > QST magazine editorial decrying rotten QRM (interference).
- > Other fearsome amateur radio torture instruments are the
- > Rettysnitch and the Uggerumph."
- > - Ham Radio Horizons, July 1978, page 52
-
- >SO ... it would seem that those newsgroup participants who claim membership
- >maybe ought to settle down :-)
-
- Visit an ARRL-sponsored convention, and you will probably find that
- there is on the agenda a "Wouff-Hong" initiation scheduled for Midnight
- on one of the days the convention is in progress. Attend the initiation
- and learn the secret of why the Wouff-Hong exists and its purpose. At
- the conclusion of the ceremony, you will be given a nice certificate,
- suitable for framing, which designates you as a member in the Royal
- Order of the Wouff-Hong (R.O.W.H.)
-
- More than that, I cannot say.....
-
- 73,
-
- Paul, K4MSG (R.O.W.H. '76)
-
- (|_|) Paul H. Bock, Jr. K4MSG Internet: pbock@melpar.esys.com
- | |) Principal Systems Engineer Telephone: (703) 560-5000 x2062
-
- "You can have my bug when you can pry my cold, dead fingers from
- around it....." - anonymous radiotelegraph operator
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 1994 22:08:07 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ham Radio & More Stations
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Ham Radio & More Station List:
- The following list can change often....
-
- Alabama: WHRT, 860am, Hartselle
- WAJF, 1490am, Decateur
- Arizona: KFNN, 1510am, Phoenix
- Colorado: KBCO, 1190am, Denver/Boulder
- Conneticut: WATR, 1320am, Hartford
- Illinois: WKTA, 1330am, Chicago
- WBGZ, 1570am, Alton
- Indiana: WPDJ, 1300am, Huntington/Ft. Wayne
- Kentucky: WMTA, 1380am, Central City
- Massach: WSSH, 1510am, Boston (50,000 watts)
- WKPE, 1170am, Orleans
- Missouri: WBGZ, 1570am, St. Louis
- N. Carolina:WEEB, 990am, Fayetteville
- WCRY, 1460am, Raleigh/Durham
- WNCT, 1070am, Greenville
- Nebraska: KICS, 1550am, Lincoln
- Oklahoma: KTMC, 1400am, Mcalester
- Utah: K26DI, channel 26 tv, Castledale
-
-
- Ham Radio & More is on the Talk America Network. It is aired live every Sunday
- at 6:00pm EST, originating from Phoenix, Arizona. It can be heard via TVRO
- satellite on Spacenet 3, Transponder 9, 6.8 audio. Our toll free listener call-in
- line is 1-800-298-TALK. The originating station number is 1-602-241-1510 for more
- information. Any radio station can air the show FREE OF CHARGE.
-
- 73, Len, KB7LPW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 1994 15:57:05 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!nntp.msstate.edu!nntp.msstate.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Radio Shack Violation
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Is it any more of a `violation' for someone to pick up an ht on the rs
- counter and `kerchunk' a repeater as it is for someone who does NOT have
- a driver's license to start the engine of a car in a showroom?
-
-
- If a tree falls in the forest...:-)
- --
- --
- John Patrick Lestrade |
- cnesta::lestrade or SSL::lestrade |
- lestrade@ra.msstate.edu |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 1994 09:52:44 -0500
- From: cs.utexas.edu!convex!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Radio Shack Violation
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <9409300400112135@pcappbbs.com> brian.parker@pcappbbs.com (Brian Parker) writes:
-
- >Just to be curious I went back to the same store. There
- >was a different salesman and I was still able to key the unit.
- >I don't know if this is a wide spread problem or only in this
- >store but if I was the repeater owner I wouldn't want some
- >puttz like me kerr-chunking my repeater.
-
- Does the HTX-202 have a keylock or a PTT lock? Or is that asking a
- bit much for the salesman to invoke :-)
-
- David
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 1994 18:08:02 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: TJ1JR ACTIVE
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- TJ1JR Randy Jones arrived in Cameroon in July and will by active for the
- next four years. I am his QSL manager. We meet weekly on the air to
- exchange log info, and after we are done, he has indicated that he is
- willing to stay on freq for 15-30 mins and work a few stations to give
- them a new one. If you are interested in receiving updates via Internet
- as to when and what freq he will be on, send me your Internet address and
- ask that you be added to my update mailing list for TJ1JR. Last week we
- were able to put through about 35 stations, so if you don't get through at
- first, don't worry. He will be on weekly.
-
- AdamN7VEW@aol.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 1994 13:16:12 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <linleyCwKGsn.DG0@netcom.com>, <35ut3f$r9r@safety.ics.uci.edu>, <Cwy4C6.LJ@cscsun.rmc.edu>
- Subject : Re: Restrictive Covenants: I can't have *any* antenna?
-
- In <Cwy4C6.LJ@cscsun.rmc.edu> dtiller@cscsun.rmc.edu (David Tiller) writes:
-
- >So there's no room for a pooly written rule to be challenged where the intend
- >is _not_ so clear? My reading of that rule's intent is to preclude antennas
- >that challenge cable's monopoly, _not_ limit other radio services (such as
- >cellular phones, ham radio, etc.) I think a well reasoned challenge to this
- >rule would be a boost to hams and possibly the community by showing how hams
- >can help out in times of emergency. My neighbors know who to come to when
- >they've got loved ones they want to contact in a disaster area!!!
-
- Just a quick note of response. Of course there is room to challenge a
- POORLY written rule. This one is not poorly written in my humble legal
- opinion. If you hired me to look at it, I would tell you not to waste
- your $10,000 in legal fees because your chances of beating it are
- slim to none. I would challenge you that you need to read your own
- contracts before signing, and that reading this rule clearly bans
- outside antennas, regardless of your personal definition of the words
- in the rule. The point is that the "legal" definition of what is
- said there is important, not the ham radio "technical" one. This just
- doesn't fly in the Courts I visit.
-
- Your point about hams helping in an emergency is near and dear to a lot
- of ham's hearts. Realistically though, it is NOT important to a majority
- of non hams I run into. I make presentations to townspeople for
- antenna permits, and when I mention the hams helping in an emergency,
- most of them laugh. It is embarassing. The non ham often thinks that
- cell phones and the local town have it all together just fine, and there
- is no need for these hams to help out. There is no arguing with a lot
- of these folks, they just won't listen. This sort of attitude is
- changeable, possibly, by ALL of us working a little at a time to show
- the non hams that ham radio is of great use in an emergency and that
- hams are generally very good neighbors.
-
- Clark
- .....................
-
- Clark Savage Turner, Graduate Student Researcher
-
- Department of Info. and Computer Science 1514 Verano Place
- Irvine, CA. 92717 Irvine, CA. 92715
- (714) 856 4049 (714) 856 2131
-
- WA3JPG, QRP #3526, active on HF, VHF and UHF.
- Admitted to practice law in California, Massachusetts, and New York.
- ARRL Volunteer Counsel
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 1994 17:10 CDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!news.uh.edu!elroy.uh.edu!tech14c@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <9409300400112135@pcappbbs.com>, <1994Sep30.172734.23514@news.csuohio.edu>, <lestrade.780958492@Ra.MsState.Edu>┤
- Subject : Re: Radio Shack Violation
-
- My radio shack keeps the ham HT's behind the counter. On one occasion I
- asked the manager (well, rather quized him) about their policies on the
- ham radio equipment. These were basically the questions I asked, and
- the answers he gave:
-
- Brad: Do you know what ham radio is?
- Manager: Yes.
-
- Brad: If someone wanted to transmit with the ham equipment, would you ask
- to see their license?
- Manager: Yes.
-
- Brad: Would you recognize a ham license if you requested to see it?
- Manager: No. I've never seen one.
-
- Brad: Are you aware that their is one class of license that is not authorized
- to transmit with your HT radios?
- Manager: No.
-
- Brad: Have you been briefed by your superior(s) on policies concerning ham
- radio equipment that you sell?
- Manager: Yes.
-
- Brad: What did they tell you?
- Manager: It's ok to sell it to anyone, but remind them to read the
- advisory that comes with the radio.
-
- Brad: What does the advisory say? Have you ever read it?
- Manager: No, I have not read it. But I think it tells the customer not
- to transmit on this radio without a proper license.
-
- Brad: How many radios have you sold?
- Manager: I'v personally sold 4, the store has sold about 15, I think.
-
-
- Well, what do you conclude about our conversation? I think that upper
- and middle Radio Shack management are aware of policies and are instructed
- to make sure that Store Managers know the policies, but most store managers
- are probably in the dark about what they are actually selling.
-
- I think it might be a good idea that the TX STOP function come ENABLED
- from the factory. Then, the customer should learn how to DISABLE it before
- they can talk on the radio. What do you think?
-
- We also have to keep in mind that Radio Shack, in a nut shell, is not
- too much different than other ham stores. I've walked into ham stores
- before and have keyed microphones without the sales person asking to see
- a license ... go figure.
-
- --
- Brad A. Killebrew N5LJV, EMT-B | Student of Computer Engr Technology
- President, University of Houston ARC | University of Houston, Texas
- Internet: n5ljv@uh.edu | U of H Amateur Radio Club WB5FND
- AMPRnet : n5ljv@sugarland.ampr.org | uharc@post-office.uh.edu
- Packet : n5ljv@f6cnb.#setx.tx.usa.na | Box 85-T2, 4800 Calhoun, 77204-4083
- AT&Tnet : 713-743-6676 Fax 743-4032 | For info, finger tech14c@jetson.uh.edu
-
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